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Re: Ivan needs a war horse...

Postby theodoric » Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:46 pm

britbrat18 wrote:In my previous post I mentioned DoA, and they talked about My Twinn horses fitting SD pretty well. Two pics..they have more throughout that thread, but since I know a lot of people aren't on DOA. :D

Doll same size as a hound with My Twinn, def. a bit small
http://www.thedollpage.com/photopost/da ... 0192pp.JPG

SD sized Doll with My Twinn
http://www.thedollpage.com/photopost/da ... 0194pp.JPG

ok ... I see what you are referring to

with an SD sized doll the My Twinn horses are like what used to be called a "riding palfry" ... considered a good size horse for most women who rode

Trethowan's Ivan ... at 72cm would tower over that size horse ... as would my Mio

if the Fresian by Resins by Randy isnt big enough to look right with her Ivan ... Trethowan might want to consider one of the "draft" horse models they also make
... breeds that are now considered purely "draft" horses ... back in the medieval period were war horses ... Shire's and Percheron's ... both because of their size, they could easily carry an armored Knight, and horse armor as well and not be overly weighed down ... and both breeds also had a very stable temperment, which was critical for a horse that went into battle ... a skittish horse could get it's rider embarrassed, or killed very quickly

if I were to get a horse for Mio ... I would want it to be either a Trakehner or a Hanoverian :)
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Re: Ivan needs a war horse...

Postby britbrat18 » Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:41 am

I forgot Ivan's 72cm, I was thinking for some odd reason that he's 62cm. XD
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Re: Ivan needs a war horse...

Postby theodoric » Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:47 am

britbrat18 wrote:I forgot Ivan's 72cm, I was thinking for some odd reason that he's 62cm. XD

no problem :)

if she is in her heels ... my Mio is just over 68cm ... even barefoot she is 65cm



it almost seems like there needs to be a separate section for the BIG 1/3 scale dolls .... not many of us have them it seems ... both because of cost ... and the size/weight

but those of us who do have them ... love them :D :D :D


either that or some sort of special symbol ... or special color (maybe teal) to use for their names ... that lets other doll owners know that our dolls are larger than the rest of the 1/3 scale dolls
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Re: Ivan needs a war horse...

Postby DollyKim » Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:07 pm

A decent base horse, My Twin or Madame Alexander even, can always be built up. It wouldn't be much to add some air dry clay or Apoxie Sculpt muscles.

I have a pair of 70cm twins so I can look around for something they could fit on in my travels.
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Re: Ivan needs a war horse...

Postby Trethowan » Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:41 am

theodoric wrote:
britbrat18 wrote:In my previous post I mentioned DoA, and they talked about My Twinn horses fitting SD pretty well. Two pics..they have more throughout that thread, but since I know a lot of people aren't on DOA. :D

Doll same size as a hound with My Twinn, def. a bit small
http://www.thedollpage.com/photopost/da ... 0192pp.JPG

SD sized Doll with My Twinn
http://www.thedollpage.com/photopost/da ... 0194pp.JPG

ok ... I see what you are referring to

with an SD sized doll the My Twinn horses are like what used to be called a "riding palfry" ... considered a good size horse for most women who rode

Trethowan's Ivan ... at 72cm would tower over that size horse ... as would my Mio

if the Fresian by Resins by Randy isnt big enough to look right with her Ivan ... Trethowan might want to consider one of the "draft" horse models they also make
... breeds that are now considered purely "draft" horses ... back in the medieval period were war horses ... Shire's and Percheron's ... both because of their size, they could easily carry an armored Knight, and horse armor as well and not be overly weighed down ... and both breeds also had a very stable temperment, which was critical for a horse that went into battle ... a skittish horse could get it's rider embarrassed, or killed very quickly

if I were to get a horse for Mio ... I would want it to be either a Trakehner or a Hanoverian :)






Aaahhh... also such beautiful horses. /dreamy sigh. I'm usually a sucker for anything with fuzzy feet. Drafts and draft-mixes were always my favs. When I was a kid I had this lovely little paint/appaloosa mix and in the winter his feet got fuzzy, and he had curly hair on his forehead like a cow. I used to giggle over his fuzzy fetlocks. My dad always rode a big black TN walker, it was 16 hands and ridiculously huge. I got to go to Breyerfest in Kentucky the year they had the Friesian stallions on display. I watched them for a long while, took a million pictures, probably sounded like an idiot squealing and carrying on the way I did. :ugeek:

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Re: Ivan needs a war horse...

Postby Trethowan » Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:48 am

theodoric wrote:it almost seems like there needs to be a separate section for the BIG 1/3 scale dolls .... not many of us have them it seems ... both because of cost ... and the size/weight

but those of us who do have them ... love them :D :D :D


either that or some sort of special symbol ... or special color (maybe teal) to use for their names ... that lets other doll owners know that our dolls are larger than the rest of the 1/3 scale dolls




Heheh... 1/3rd plus. 1/3rd goddess size. 1/3 and a half. :-)

Ivan is so giant. I carried him to a Con. Once. My arm was sore the next day. (embarrassed) He was supposed to be my tallest character at 6'1" tall, so it worked that he was 72cm and everyone else was in the 60+ range. BUT then I decided I had a character that was a 6'3" quarterback football type. /sigh. Curse me and my preference for American comics. Looks like it's Iplehouse time for me. I'm still looking for someone bigger than the Dragondoll Uncle under $300 bucks. Aaaahh... good times. Fun research though!!

Speaking of, and back to horses, I found a 27cm obitsu that would be a great mini-Ivan. I'm tellin' ya, Mini-Ivan plus Breyer? Problem solved. :-)
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Re: Ivan needs a war horse...

Postby victoriavictrix » Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:04 am

Well there's this, if you have $600 lying around, they claim it can hold up to 250 lbs. It's 41 inches tall

http://www.poshtots.com/gifts/gifts-by- ... etail.aspx

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Someone has the Marx ride-on horse on Ebay for $250

http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-MARX-TOYS-T ... 0456345883

$79 gets you a plush rocking horse from TRU

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.js ... Id=4413371

$120 at TRU nets the plush "Giddyup and Go"

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.js ... Id=3228814

$80 at amazon nets a rather good looking plush horse

http://www.amazon.com/Melissa-Doug-2105 ... 80&sr=1-13

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$250 for this but only 20" tall

http://www.amazon.com/Our-Generation-Th ... 85&sr=1-53

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This guy is $150 and 30" tall

http://www.amazon.com/Smarter-Tools-Sel ... 78&sr=1-57

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$250 and 21 inches tall for Butterscotch, but it moves! It's one of the Fur-Real critters so it does all sorts of stuff.

http://www.amazon.com/Hasbro-76471-FurR ... 78&sr=1-62

Here it is with a kid

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Re: Ivan needs a war horse...

Postby theodoric » Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:08 am

Trethowan wrote:Aaahhh... also such beautiful horses. /dreamy sigh. I'm usually a sucker for anything with fuzzy feet. Drafts and draft-mixes were always my favs.....

the first time I ever got to see draft horses up close was at the Pennsylvania State Farm Show in Harrisburg back in the late 1960's .... I was IMPRESSED ... they had a bunch of Clydesdales there and they were HUGE

Trethowan wrote:Ivan is so giant. I carried him to a Con. Once. My arm was sore the next day. (embarrassed) He was supposed to be my tallest character at 6'1" tall, so it worked that he was 72cm and everyone else was in the 60+ range. BUT then I decided I had a character that was a 6'3" quarterback football type. /sigh. Curse me and my preference for American comics. Looks like it's Iplehouse time for me. I'm still looking for someone bigger than the Dragondoll Uncle under $300 bucks. Aaaahh... good times. Fun research though!!

hehehe ... at least you have a Con close enough to you that you can go to .... there is NOTHING near me ... I was thinking about trying to go to the doll show in Utah in Oct, that is the closest one ... but it looks like spring will be the chance if then

as for dolls bigger that your Ivan .... Iplehouse doesnt make any ... their tallest is 70.5cm .... the only other ones I know are bigger is the Lusion series ny Dollmore @ 80cm but they are only childlike looking girl dolls
... I seem to remember seeing one of the male Korean dolls that was 75cm, but I'm not positive of that ... let me do some digging

victoriavictrix wrote:Well there's this, if you have $600 lying around, they claim it can hold up to 250 lbs. It's 41 inches tall

http://www.poshtots.com/gifts/gifts-by- ... etail.aspx

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:lol: :lol: ... I'm sorry but the instant I saw the face on that one all I could think of was Donkey from the Shrek movies ... make the legs a little shorter and it would be a dead ringer, especially the face :lol: :lol:
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Re: Ivan needs a war horse...

Postby theodoric » Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:10 pm

Trethowan wrote:
... I'm still looking for someone bigger than the Dragondoll Uncle under $300 bucks. Aaaahh... good times. Fun research though!!


I thought I remembered seeing a doll taller than your Ivan ... I found him ... 75cm

since he really belongs over in the 1/3 section ... I'll make a post about him over there :)
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Re: Ivan needs a war horse...

Postby victoriavictrix » Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:44 pm

Double checking my medieval research on warhorses nets that the warhorse averaged about 6 feet at the withers (I am using feet rather than "hands" since most folks are not horsey around here). So that puts a 1/3 warhorse right at 23 1/2 inches at the withers. I am pretty sure that all those riding-toy horses I posted are measuring at the head rather than at the withers.

This may be exactly what you are looking for:

http://augusta.ebayclassifieds.com/coll ... d=10514212

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It's 29 inches tall and made of leather. You can easily give it a new mane and tail, and the price is right, $45.
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