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Furniture and other house-props for dolls?

Postby she_flame » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:22 am

I am here (again) asking stupid questions. But yeah. I'll be need of (night elf styled) temporary doll house - like maybe two walls (that can be stored easily away) - for doing a corner of a room and floor and furniture.

Has anyone done some of these - walls/floor, furniture (in any style, not NE) in any way? Working with real wood is out of the question - I have no skills or workspace for that. So, What other materials would you recommend to try? For walls/floor, would painted paper/cardboard do (is it too tricky to get stay up)?
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Re: Furniture and other house-props for dolls?

Postby zirconmermaid » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:17 pm

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Re: Furniture and other house-props for dolls?

Postby she_flame » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:28 pm

Foamcore seems to be good for the floor/walls! Thanks for the tip! (Now I have to see, if any shop in finland sells it, or do I have to order from UK/US.
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Re: Furniture and other house-props for dolls?

Postby K2! » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:20 pm

Don't rule out wood too quickly, but first you have to realize whatever you do (wood, foamboard, etc.) will cost you some time, money, and space, both for storage and when it's set up. 1/3 or 1/4 scale is not small or convenient like 1/6 scale.

I don't know if you have any "do it yourself" home stores like we do in the US (Home Depot, Lowe's, Menard's, etc.), but you can buy a full sheet of plywood and these stores will cut it for you for a nominal charge. For 1/3 or 1/4 scale, a rear wall of about .8 meters to a meter high and 1.8 to 2 meters wide works well. I gives you a comfortably amount of space to work in without the top and side edges of the walls showing in all your pictures. If you keep the walls flat (or very low relief) you can store them behind a door or under a bed when not in use. I don't know what you have over there, but my plywood of choice is 1/4" (5mm) luan plywood. It is fairly light weight, rigid, has one very smooth side, suitable for painting or applying wallpaper, and it is much more durable and water resistant than foamcore. If you don't have a table big enough to house your room, you can invest in a piece of thicker plywood, about 2cm thick and temporarily set up your room on a bed. Adding a strip of wood to the bottom back side of each wall would allow you to attach the walls to the floor with screws, bolts and nuts, or spring clips so it can be assembled and disassembled easily. Add these strips of wood to the side edges of the two walls meet so they can be clipped together as well. These wood strips will also help keep the plywood flat and add support to the structure, which is desirable for attaching clip lights to the top of the walls. Oh that's right, you're probably going to want to light this room too. That's a whole other issue.

If the wood route seems a bit daunting, you can go the foamboard route.
Fome-cor (a.k.a. foam core) is the copyrighted trade name for a paper-faced foam board comprised of extruded polystyrene foam with clay-coated paper facers.
http://graphicdisplayusa.com/en/product ... cor-board/
There are many similar competing brands and foam core (like kleenex or xerox) has become a generic name for these foam board products.
Fome-cor is light weight, fairly rigid, and easy to cut with a utility knife. The downside is that the thinner more affordable varieties do not stay very flat without framing and will still warp even when framed. Painting with water based paints can cause even more warping. You can frequently find pre-cut pieces at hobby and art supply stores. If you are unfamiliar with this product it would be a good idea to trek down to an art supply store that has some and check it out.
If you are in this for the long haul you might want to think about some of foam board's bigger brothers such as Rynoboard and Gatorfoam.
http://www.foamboardsource.com/medium-- ... board.html
http://graphicdisplayusa.com/en/product ... gatorfoam/
Both are similar to Fome-cor but use different materials in their construction. Rynoboard is a heavy-duty exterior sheet laminated on each side of a high density, expanded polystyrene core (bead foam). Gatorfoam has the same extruded polystyrene foam interior as Fome-cor but uses a exterior veneer of wood-fiber making it extremely rigid. The surface is similar in texture to smooth kraftpaper. Ryno and Gator are much more durable and rigid, especially the thicker versions (1.5cm+) and these thicker boards are very flat and more resistant to warping when painted with water based paints. Of course there is a price to pay for these features and both Ryno and Gator are more expensive than the similarly sized foamboards (Fome-cor). In the long run the features are worth the additional cost. You may not find these at an art supply store. You might try a picture framer. I've had posters dry mounted on both Ryno and Gator at a local picture framer.

Another alternative would be to build wooden frames, stretch muslin or canvas on them, and then paint them as desired (kind of sounds like theatrical flats). You could use the pre-cut stretcher frames and fabrics (muslin or canvas) available at art supply stores. The advantages would be their light weight, they wouldn't warp much and can be twisted easily back to flatness, and they are made to be painted. The down side would be the fabric is easier to poke a hole in than foam boards, but they can be repaired or the fabric can be replaced.
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Re: Furniture and other house-props for dolls?

Postby richila » Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:07 am

zirconmermaid wrote:Foamcore is your friend!

Yes!!!!!!
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Re: Furniture and other house-props for dolls?

Postby Trethowan » Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:09 pm

Thanks for the tips and size dimensions, K2. I'm planning a single-room doll house for my set, but it has to be able to switch out between an outdoor setting and the indoor. After reading your tips here I think I'll build the main structure out of wood and have slide in foamcore "theatre backdrop changes" for the other scenes I'd like to add. The primary would be the apartment. Secondly I want to do backdrops for Foster's fairy realm and Abe's library. I ought to do a back-alley or parking lot just so I can use Micah's motorcycle from time to time.

Originally I was going to have the floor measure 7' wide x 3.5' deep. I thought I'd have the back and sides stand 90cm tall, so that the 76cm tall doll would have some headroom. Maybe it should be taller for photography's sake? Plus I need to get the lights that clamp to the sides so that take a few inches probably?
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Re: Furniture and other house-props for dolls?

Postby K2! » Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:50 pm

Trethowan wrote:I'm planning a single-room doll house for my set, but it has to be able to switch out between an outdoor setting and the indoor.

Sounds like you want a little 1/3 scale TV studio.

After reading your tips here I think I'll build the main structure out of wood and have slide in foamcore "theatre backdrop changes" for the other scenes I'd like to add. The primary would be the apartment. Secondly I want to do backdrops for Foster's fairy realm and Abe's library. I ought to do a back-alley or parking lot just so I can use Micah's motorcycle from time to time.
Originally I was going to have the floor measure 7' wide x 3.5' deep. I thought I'd have the back and sides stand 90cm tall, so that the 76cm tall doll would have some headroom. Maybe it should be taller for photography's sake? Plus I need to get the lights that clamp to the sides so that take a few inches probably?


Yes, your big boys are going to cause you some problems with their size. You can do some experimentation to get an idea of the sort of height you're going to need. Set your big guy up on a table, then place a yard stick vertically about 2' behind him. This can be on a wall next to the table. Then take a few shots from the typical angles you want to use. From this you can see how much height (and width) you may need.
I'm right in the middle of moving right now and most of the MV stuff is packed away (sound familiar?). Once things are back to "normal" in a couple of weeks, I'd be more than happy to discuss the options and do some drawings to illustrate what I'm talking about.
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Re: Furniture and other house-props for dolls?

Postby Trethowan » Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:05 pm

Exactly, I've always envisioned a little theater for my photostories. The "Magical Anywhere Couch" has its drawbacks. ha

Good luck moving! I hope you return to normal faster than me! I still have a basement full of boxes. I should have been a little more detailed than writing "office" on everything. I have dozens of boxes that all say "office." Oh no, I couldn't be bothered to write "office-- doll clothes" or "office-- camera equipment". Geez.

Illustrations sound perfect, thank you for that. I want to make sure what's in my head is going to work before I start buying and cutting wood. :-) I figure I'll have this thing set up by the end of summer. (famous last words)
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